Ran into an error with SlyEdit and Vim when I filled my main partition.

I've lost the exact error message. But may want to check space where the temporary file is written, and capture even and display relevant message
and exit.


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Amessyroom wrote to nightfall <=-

Ran into an error with SlyEdit and Vim when I filled my main partition.

Did you mean to write this to "NightFox"? The auther of SlyEdit?

You "filled your main partition"? That wasn't a good idea.

I've lost the exact error message. But may want to check space where
the temporary file is written, and capture even and display relevant message and exit.

Or maybe keep an eye on your system, and don't fill up a partition.

You sure make a lot of mistakes, that seem to be caused by not paying attention; and/or not bothering to read instructions properly.

At least your nick/handle makes some sense.



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Re: Error when disk full error occurs
By: Amessyroom to nightfall on Sat Dec 21 2024 09:58 am

Ran into an error with SlyEdit and Vim when I filled my main partition.

I've lost the exact error message. But may want to check space where the temporary file is written, and capture even and display relevant message and exit.

I see you addressed this message to "nightfall".. Did you mean to address this to me (since you mentioned SlyEdit)? If so, you also mentioned Vim, which is not something I maintain..

It sounds like the general issue is there wasn't enough space to save the message, particularly since you say you got an error both with SlyEdit and with Vim. And to save a message, SlyEdit ultimately calls one of Synchronet's JavaScript functions to save the message.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Error when disk full error occurs
By: Gamgee to Amessyroom on Mon Dec 23 2024 12:18 am

Amessyroom wrote to nightfall <=-

Ran into an error with SlyEdit and Vim when I filled my main partition.

Did you mean to write this to "NightFox"? The auther of SlyEdit?

Yes. Rather than bothering him with direct netmail; thought I would use the echo for a general support item.

You "filled your main partition"? That wasn't a good idea.

Nope. It was filled with backups.

I've lost the exact error message. But may want to check space where the
temporary file is written, and capture even and display relevant message
and exit.

Or maybe keep an eye on your system, and don't fill up a partition.

Yep . Expected it to happen but have not put in a cron job to clean things automatically.

You sure make a lot of mistakes, that seem to be caused by not paying attention; and/or not bothering to read instructions properly.

I'm only human. Not perfect. I can see where you get that impression.

At least your nick/handle makes some sense.

Glad you find the nick applies.


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Re: Error when disk full error occurs
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Sat Dec 21 2024 02:34 pm

Re: Error when disk full error occurs
By: Amessyroom to nightfall on Sat Dec 21 2024 09:58 am

Ran into an error with SlyEdit and Vim when I filled my main partition.

I've lost the exact error message. But may want to check space where the
temporary file is written, and capture even and display relevant message
and exit.

I see you addressed this message to "nightfall".. Did you mean to address this to me (since you mentioned SlyEdit)? If so, you also mentioned Vim, which is not something I maintain..

Yes. I guess my attention to detail has failed me again. Yes. Nightfox not Nightfall
:-(

I was just saying the vim editor also had same issue, but error was more obvious
"Couldn't write swap file". So I knew it was disk space or permission issue.

The error in SlyEdit was like a TypeError . Nothing that I could related to failure
to writing the temp file.

It sounds like the general issue is there wasn't enough space to save the message, particularly since you say you got an error both with SlyEdit and with Vim. And to save a message, SlyEdit ultimately calls one of Synchronet's JavaScript functions to save the message.

Ok. I just thought maybe it could be caught and reported with a human error message, rather than a javascript type error.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Error when disk full error occurs
By: Gamgee to Amessyroom on Mon Dec 23 2024 00:18:11

You sure make a lot of mistakes, that seem to be caused by not paying attention; and/or not bothering to read instructions properly.

At least your nick/handle makes some sense.

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Re: Re: Error when disk full error occurs
By: Gamgee to Amessyroom on Mon Dec 23 2024 12:18 am

Amessyroom wrote to nightfall <=-

Ran into an error with SlyEdit and Vim when I filled my main partition.

Did you mean to write this to "NightFox"? The auther of SlyEdit?

Yes. Rather than bothering him with direct netmail; thought I would
use the echo for a general support item.

Right, but you didn't actually address it to him. Got it.

You "filled your main partition"? That wasn't a good idea.

Nope. It was filled with backups.

So...... just so I understand this - you're writing your backups to the
same partition that the data comes from? Does that seem like a wise
option to you? Even one step further - should you be writing backups to
the same *disk* that the data lives on?

I've lost the exact error message. But may want to check space where the
temporary file is written, and capture even and display relevant message
and exit.

Or maybe keep an eye on your system, and don't fill up a partition.

Yep . Expected it to happen but have not put in a cron job to clean
things automatically.

Wow. So you knew it would happen, but couldn't be bothered to prevent
it, either by writing the backups to some other location, or doing the (5-minute) task of writing the cron entry?

Please tell me you're not a SysAdmin by trade...

You sure make a lot of mistakes, that seem to be caused by not paying attention; and/or not bothering to read instructions properly.

I'm only human. Not perfect. I can see where you get that impression.

I'm not perfect either, but that isn't what this is about. It's about
doing things in a reasonable manner.

At least your nick/handle makes some sense.

Glad you find the nick applies.

Well I admit that is an assumption, but probably right.

Just so you don't think I'm a complete asshole, here's some advice:
It's really a *BAD* idea to be doing backups the way you are. Send them
to another location such as another drive somewhere on your LAN, or even
to an off-site location such as the cloud. Or both.

Also, pay attention to details. Sometimes that's all it takes to make
the difference between success and failure. Read instructions and
follow them correctly. Sometimes you need to read those instructions
more than once. Sometimes it takes 20 times to read them before getting
the full picture. Take the time that's needed to understand.

Good luck and Happy Holidays.



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Re: Re: Error when disk full error occurs
By: Gamgee to Errol Casey on Sun Dec 22 2024 08:02:21

Just so you don't think I'm a complete asshole, here's some advice:
It's really a *BAD* idea to be doing backups the way you are. Send them
to another location such as another drive somewhere on your LAN, or even
to an off-site location such as the cloud. Or both.

This is close to what's called the 3-2-1 backup strategy: 3 copies of the data, Use 2 different storage mediums, and keep 1 copy offsite. However, with cloud storage so easily available, #2 is less necessary these days.

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