• Thin Client Pc To Run Dos

    From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to DENN on Sunday, January 11, 2026 09:34:00
    Forgot to update everyone on the thin client DOS project. It's an HP t5740e thin client PC with 2GB of RAM and a 4GB drive. I formatted almost 2GB for th system boot drive and 2GB for the extended DOS partition.Originally, I installed DOS 6.22 on it, but I decided to put FreeDOS on instead. FreeDOS already has most of the drivers needed, so I can install stuff using the USB port. I still have programs on floppies that I bought way back in the early '90s; I was able to just install them from a cheap USB floppy drive.I literal paid like $14 for it, the floppy disks cost more than the drivethese days, $2 for 10 Disks locally! The DOS machine is up and running like a charm. I actually played the original DOOM from way back. Now I am getting back to writing a few batch files. I haven't done that in over 30 years."

    That is good news. Glad it is working out. I had not heard of floppy
    drives with USB connectors so that is good to know. Is it a 5.25 or 3.5
    drive?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MIKE POWELL on Sunday, January 11, 2026 17:02:06
    Re: Thin Client Pc To Run Dos
    By: MIKE POWELL to DENN on Sun Jan 11 2026 09:34 am

    That is good news. Glad it is working out. I had not heard of floppy drives with USB connectors so that is good to know. Is it a 5.25 or 3.5 drive?

    I've only seen 3.5" USB floppy drives; I don't think they make 5.25" USB floppy drives, but I suppose I could be wrong.

    Nightfox

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Tuesday, January 13, 2026 07:58:05
    That is good news. Glad it is working out. I had not heard of floppy drives with USB connectors so that is good to know. Is it a 5.25 or 3.5 drive?

    I've only seen 3.5" USB floppy drives; I don't think they make 5.25" USB
    >floppy drives, but I suppose I could be wrong.

    Some of the external USB 'Boxes' have connectors on them that should
    work with either size Floppy Drive. I think.. I haven't tried it myself.

    I keep an older system running for transferring old Floppy disk
    info onto a Flash drive or something.. Actually, I guess I don't
    have one that takes 5.25" floppies anymore. I transferred all that
    stuff several systems ago.. B)

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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to DENN on Tuesday, January 13, 2026 08:21:00
    3.5 floppy, I have not seen any USB 5 1/4 floppies.
    a 3.5 USB floppy can be purchased on Amazon for under $15.

    Thanks to everyone who responded. I still have a lot of things on 5.25
    from back when that was all I had. Luckily, I do still have a DOS PC with both sizes so, if I ever want to start converting/storing elsewhere, I can start there. ;)

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to MIKE POWELL on Tuesday, January 13, 2026 20:09:03
    MIKE POWELL wrote to DENN <=-

    3.5 floppy, I have not seen any USB 5 1/4 floppies.
    a 3.5 USB floppy can be purchased on Amazon for under $15.

    Thanks to everyone who responded. I still have a lot of things on 5.25 from back when that was all I had. Luckily, I do still have a DOS PC
    with both sizes so, if I ever want to start converting/storing
    elsewhere, I can start there. ;)

    You should probably get those 5.25's copied off and archived somewhere
    more safe/stable. Those floppies WILL eventually fail and be
    unreadable.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MIKE POWELL on Wednesday, January 14, 2026 06:56:54
    MIKE POWELL wrote to DENN <=-

    Thanks to everyone who responded. I still have a lot of things on 5.25 from back when that was all I had. Luckily, I do still have a DOS PC
    with both sizes so, if I ever want to start converting/storing
    elsewhere, I can start there. ;)

    At my last job, fairly recently, the organization had phased out a
    server room full of AS/400s. They had one remaining system remaining.

    In the server room, they kept a system running to use as a local means
    of testing and restoring individual tape backups.

    It was an IBM PS/2 model 80, 13" CRT and a Model M keyboard running
    OS/2. Connected to it was an IBM 4019 laser printer. IBM "pointing
    device", a heavy 2-button mechanical mouse.

    That was the exact system I'd used at my first job - in 1991!



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, January 14, 2026 12:56:57
    Re: Re: Thin Client Pc To Run Dos
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MIKE POWELL on Wed Jan 14 2026 06:56 am

    It was an IBM PS/2 model 80, 13" CRT and a Model M keyboard running OS/2. Connected to it was an IBM 4019 laser printer. IBM "pointing device", a heavy 2-button mechanical mouse.

    That was the exact system I'd used at my first job - in 1991!

    That sounds like a fairly iconic early-mid 90s computer setup. If I collected retro computers, I wouldn't mind having a setup like that. I've also thought it would be cool to have an old Amiga (maybe a 2000 or a 3000). I'd need to have room for a computer collection first..

    Nightfox

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MIKE POWELL on Wednesday, January 14, 2026 22:53:55
    Re: Thin Client Pc To Run Dos
    By: MIKE POWELL to DENN on Tue Jan 13 2026 08:21 am

    a 3.5 USB floppy can be purchased on Amazon for under $15.

    Thanks to everyone who responded. I still have a lot of things on 5.25 from back when that was all I had. Luckily, I do still have a DOS PC with both sizes so, if I ever want to start converting/storing elsewhere, I can start there. ;)

    I had dual 5.25 floppy drives on my old TRS-80 Color Computer 2 in the 80's.
    When I went to at-386 I just used 3.5 floppies and a 20 MB hard drive, later I bought a 486 and added a CD-Rom drive.
    my 1st PC though was a 286 and it had a 5.25 and a 3.5 floppy drive.
    Used to have a floppy template I would use to punch a hole on the 5.25 floppy disk's to make them double sided.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Thursday, January 15, 2026 08:15:44
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    It was an IBM PS/2 model 80, 13" CRT and a Model M keyboard running OS/2. Connected to it was an IBM 4019 laser printer. IBM "pointing device", a heavy 2-button mechanical mouse.

    That was the exact system I'd used at my first job - in 1991!

    That sounds like a fairly iconic early-mid 90s computer setup. If I collected retro computers, I wouldn't mind having a setup like that.
    I've also thought it would be cool to have an old Amiga (maybe a 2000
    or a 3000). I'd need to have room for a computer collection first..

    They were great systems - Micro channel architecture, with a fast bus
    ahead of its time. ESDI drives. Toolless construction, you could take
    the entire thing apart with a coin.

    We were running OS/2 2.1, sharing files over a Token-Ring LAN with an MS
    LAN MAN file server and a Novell network, connecting to AS/400s over
    Twinax, and doing it all when most people in the company were running WordPerfect and 1-2-3 in DOS.

    The only downside was an office full of Model M keyboards clacking
    away...



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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Friday, January 16, 2026 02:11:12
    Re: Re: Thin Client Pc To Run Dos
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jan 14 2026 12:56:57

    It was an IBM PS/2 model 80, 13" CRT and a Model M keyboard running OS/2. Connected to it was an IBM 4019 laser printer.

    That sounds like a fairly iconic early-mid 90s computer setup.

    Late '80s, actually. The PS/2 80 came out in '87 and the 4019 in '89.

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, January 16, 2026 02:26:41
    Re: Re: Thin Client Pc To Run Dos
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Jan 15 2026 08:15:44

    They were great systems - Micro channel architecture, with a fast bus
    ahead of its time.

    It's also what killed the PS/2. IBM was hoping it would replace their current line of PCs, but because of the PS/2s higher price and incompatibility issues with various hard/software, it was hard to find enough developers willing to work with it, so that never happened. Also, 5.25" floppies were still very much the norm, and since the PS/2 used only 3.5" disks, that was just another nail in the coffin.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Mortar on Friday, January 16, 2026 08:16:13
    Mortar wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    It's also what killed the PS/2. IBM was hoping it would replace their current line of PCs, but because of the PS/2s higher price and incompatibility issues with various hard/software, it was hard to find enough developers willing to work with it, so that never happened.
    Also, 5.25" floppies were still very much the norm, and since the PS/2 used only 3.5" disks, that was just another nail in the coffin.

    In a corporate environment, they were great. That first job I mentioned
    had 4 IBM midrange computers, IBM laser printers, IBM token-ring
    networking, and a dedicated account rep from IBM. We ran OS/2, and had
    one vendor for everything - probably the last time that's happened.

    IBM made sure to throw lots of FUD at any third-party tools in the
    field, when we bought a company that was all Compaq and third-party
    token ring cards, our rep was beside himself blaming third-party
    components. It was all from a generation ago.

    That went against the IBM PC, which made inroads in the home market
    because of it's relative openness. Not many years later, I was buying
    white-box servers and desktop PCs custom-built to our specs.



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